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edited August 2002 in General
I have print-to-RTF-file working with RBuilder reports and the ExtraDev
add-on.

I have print-to-printer working with RBuilder reports and the WPTools add-on
for RBuilder.

But when I try to print a report that uses the WPTools add-on to an RTF
file, I get a blank page for each letter. (The report is just a detail band
with a TppWPTRichText component in it.)

I guess somebody's not getting asked for data, or is failing to deliver it
when asked. But I get no runtime errors. So I'm at a loss. (I just sent
mail to ExtraDev support but thought I'd try here too.)

Thanks.

Mike Carroll

Comments

  • edited August 2002
    I think Jim at ExtraDev will be able to help you with this...

    --
    Cheers,

    Tom Ollar
    Digital Metaphors Corporation
  • edited September 2002

    Yes, Jim got back to me, he said this has been fixed in the latest version
    of ExtraDev.
  • edited September 2002
    > Yes, Jim got back to me, he said this has been fixed in the latest version

    Did you actually receive the latest version from him yet though? My company
    contacted Jim regarding this problem also on/around August 20th and the
    TExtraDevices version 2.1 did not have the problem fixed either. He has
    been unusually quiet in responding to my last few e-mails in the past two
    weeks (vacation perhaps?)

    From what I've been able to determine about your original problem which
    mimics my own problem through my own testing (and forwarded on Jim about 2
    weeks ago) is that the problem with the RTF export is specifically regarding
    the TppRichText component (and derivatives) and how they are rendered in
    RTF. If you open the RTF file in notepad you should notice that the missing
    data is indeed there, but is being stored in a special text box field that
    only seems to be viewable in Microsoft Word (and more specifically in
    Microsoft Word viewing the document in "Print Layout" view mode (View |
    Print Layout in Word). Attempting to view the document in WordPad (which I
    thought was the "official" RTF viewer for Windows) never displays the data
    stored in these text boxes. If anyone knows a way, please let me know.

    The need to view the document in Print Layout mode is actually the *minor*
    problem that I've noticed with the RichText export to RTF. Have you
    attempted to export a document that includes a TppRichText component that
    spans multiple pages? It displays beautifully in the RB Preview screen (and
    when printed), the TExtraDevices export, however, prints blank pages for all
    pages after the first. I have notified Jim of this problem as well, and am
    still awaiting a response on this matter.

    During my testing I have also downloaded and installed the trial version of
    the PsRBExportDevices by Pragnaan and came up with the following results.

    The RTF documents created by Pragnaan automatically open up in Word in Print
    Layout (Waler's documents seem to default to "Normal" view). The issue with
    RichText boxes that span onto multiple pages seems to have been handled
    correctly by Pragnaan as well. As the Pragnaan solution also uses the text
    boxes to implement the RichText export, their documents are not viewable in
    WordPad either.

    Unfortunately I've noticed that different versions of Microsoft Word display
    the documents differently. I contacted Pragnaan's support and have received
    so far two different versions of rebuilds of their *trial package* to
    attempt to fix all of my problems. In the latest version I have received
    from them so far, all of the problems/errors I have noticed to date have
    been solved when the RTF document is viewed in Microsoft Word 97. Using
    Office 2000's version of Word, certain RTF documents actually cause Word to
    crash. Office XP's version of Word crashes as well until Office XP Service
    Pack 2 is installed. Both Office 2000 and XP's versions of Word display the
    RichText box in Word with the bottom lines of the text box begin completely
    or partially hidden. The data is viewable once the size of the text box is
    manually scrolled down.

    I have forwarded all of the findings pertinent to TExtraDevices to both Jim
    @ Waler on 8/21 and have yet to receive any sort of response other than an
    "I'll look into this" on 8/22. Nothing since, including no response from my
    follow-up message on 8/28 asking for any sort of status.

    I have been working back and forth with the Pragnaan support to solve the
    problems. My latest message sent to them on 8/30 has yet to get any response
    from them. Based on what I've seen so far though, I'm expecting something
    useful from them any day now.


    Now I realize that they are the only games in town to handle the RB to RTF
    export, and that sort of puts us in a bind when neither of them work
    completely and we can't seem to get reasonably fast support for our
    problems. Both of their websites advertise (guarantee?) all support issues
    will handled within at least 24 hours. I've been extra lenient in my
    expectations since I realize that we're dealing with time zone/geographic
    factors that make extremely fast support difficult. But it shouldn't take
    more than a week for e-mail to get to India (and to wherever Waler is
    located) and back.

    --
    Michael Simons
    Software Programmer
    Steven J. Baum P.C.
    msimons@mbaum.com
  • edited September 2002
    Hi Michael,


    I sent yesterday a question to Jim and got the answer today.

    regards,
    Chris Ueberall;
  • edited September 2002
    > I sent yesterday a question to Jim and got the answer today.

    Maybe its just me then? Not the kind of answer I was hoping to hear about
    his support.

    --
    Michael Simons
    Software Programmer
    Steven J. Baum P.C.
    msimons@mbaum.com
  • edited September 2002
    I responded back to another individual at your firm who emailed me.

    Anyway, the autoview option has been fixed and I am now working
    on the span pages issue. I hope to have a workable version by the
    weekend.

    Jim Waler
  • edited September 2002
    > I responded back to another individual at your firm who emailed me.

    I will check with him and see what he received. I am curious though as to
    why the e-mail sent from me went unanswered.


    Sounds good, I will be waiting for the updated version. Please take a look
    at the comments/problems I mentioned in regards to the Pragnaan package so
    that whatever you come up with handles the different versions of Word
    correctly. Unfortunately a solution that only works for Word 97 isn't
    feasible for us.


    --
    Michael Simons
    Software Programmer
    Steven J. Baum P.C.
    msimons@mbaum.com
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